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singht |
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i think i know what this is! this looks like the cheaper variety of blankets...i'll chk out the market today. thanks!
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singht |
Re: fleece?? | #122 | ||
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Yippeee! i found it! ok what i need is a 100% polyester fleece blanket right? I just found it at my place only. didnt need to go out. i accidently chked the label of one of those promotional blankets (ice age-2) with cereal and it says 100% polyester fleece. tell me that this would do the trick!
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Austruck |
Re: fleece?? | #123 | ||
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I think that's right, yes. Around here they make all sorts of little baby and kid "blankets" and "throws" from this sort of fleece, as well as sweatshirt-type tops with zippers.
Mine are actually infant receiving blankets made of fleece, so they have little baby toy pictures on them. They sound right, so go ahead and try. Here you can see my boar Ajax in his enclosure, standing on one of the fleece blankets. The edges were already sewn up like that---the size of the blankets matches the size of the enclosure so I didn't have to cut or resew anything. Hope this image helps you confirm that you've got the right stuff. I've started putting baby crib liner pads underneath the fleece and that's been working great (with newspapers under that, for good measure).
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I Married Shrek |
Re: fleece?? | #124 | ||
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To see if it's going to work, drop some water onto it. Does the water instantly go into the fabric or does it sit on the top and roll around? Does it sit for a second or two and then go into the blanket? If so, then wash it in very hot water at least 3 time and then try again.
The point is that it has to go into the fabric or it won't work well for bedding material. Is it large enough to line the entire cage bottom? Assuming it works then all you need to do is decide on what to use for an absorbant layer underneath. Towels, Various mattress pads, quilt batting, disposable bed pads, crib pads etc.. lots of options are there but it needs to be nice and thick so that it absorbs all the urine fast, and dries equally fast between urinations |
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singht |
Re: fleece?? | #125 | ||
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yup this is it. i have put it in the washing machine for a hot wash coz the water was just sitting there.
and the size is perfect. around 2.5 by 5 feet. i plan to build the c &C cage for him. which is another hurdle! coroplast is not a problem but the cubes are. we dont get them here...so i am requesting one of my friends on singapore to get it for me but that will take a month..so i guess i'll have to think of something else. |
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I Married Shrek |
Re: fleece?? | #126 | ||
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If you are interested you can go over to a post I have on another forum and read up on exactly how I manage my fleece: www.guineapigcages.com/fo...ks-me.html
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singht |
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that was very informative!
but i have a problem. have washed the thing twice in hot water and still the water is running around??? can anyone tell me why that could be? |
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Austruck |
Re: mayday | #128 | ||
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Perhaps it is a water-resistant material...? Some fleece is coated/treated so that you can wear it outside and not get wet. And sometimes that stuff doesn't wash out all that easily.
I used the baby blankets because they were still fleece but they weren't water-resistant. |
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I Married Shrek |
Re: mayday | #129 | ||
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Since you already have it, you can try it out and see how well it works with a couple layers of towels under it. I've seen a lot of people who swear by washing them in hot water with detergent and bleach 3 or 4 times to get rid of any extra repellant. I did notice a drastic difference in absorbancy after I'd done mine 3 times in hot water.
I do have a couple of fleece pieces where the water would sit on on the fabric in puddles, BUT if I just barely touched the water it would suddenly get sucked up. These secondary fleece pieces that I use tend to smell faster, and the fleece feels moisture faster as well. I have to use lots of extra things on top when I use those particular fleece pieces. Things like hand towels and baby blankets that ARE absorbant have to be placed in heavy use areas like under hideys, and changed daily. These less effective pieces of fleece work okay, but if I could do it again, I would have been more careful in my initial choice of fleece. You will KNOW when it's not working when -the top of the fleece is wetter than the bottom absorbant layer, -that the pigs feet feel cold and damp when you pick them up -that the poops/stray hay pieces get soggy or dragged across the fleece to make a lovely poop soup, which leaves stains on the fabric. Fleece is best used with large Cube and Coroplast cages. Fleece must never be allowed to be moist for long hours. If you find your fleece has any moisture when you press your hand on it, on a consistent basis then you need to change something. Things that have to be addressed depending on the problem are -a bigger cage, -more absorbant layers or more effective absorbancy -finding or additional layers of fleece. -removing poop more often such as twice daily -changing the fleece more often -changing out the absorbant layer between fleece changes. Many people with smaller cages and/or more pigs find that they have to make 2-7 fleece changes a week, larger cages with less pigs can stay dry and odor free for as long as 7-10 days. As pigs get larger, adjustments often have to be made. I have a couple of blankets for my own bed, they were marketed on the label as "micro-fleece". This is supposed to be a very asborbant type of fleece yet neither of them absorb anything, and I find myself sweating under them quite a bit, yet the blankets stay dry. I've had these super soft blankets for over a year, and noticed them getting a little "pilly". So I tested them last week as I thought they would be good to retire to piggy bedding. Sadly, the water roolllled around all over the blanket, then I took a tissue and soaked up every drop off the top. Not a single hint of moisture drained through to the bottom. Even after 10 minutes. So just because it says it's "Fleece" or "polyester", doesn't mean it's the kind of fleece you need.( I guess it's like saying "vinyl" which can mean anything from thick textured plastic to thin sheeting.) Any fleece that you can't get to absorb urine would really be a pain as bedding, because the entire reason that fleece for bedding works is because of the unique "wicking" action that no other fabric can provide. By placing terry cloth towels or other absorbant material under the fleece you are creating a 'System' that works together to provide a safe, inexpensive and unique bedding solution. The thinner and cheaper the fleece, the greater chance that it's going to allow the urine to run straight through it. What you are going to need to come up with is a 2 or 3 layer system. The top layer of fleece drains the urine and stays dry to the touch, the second layer PULLS or SUCKS the urine from the upper layer and the third layer allows the urine to try quickly. Your top layer of fleece needs to smooth so that hay, hair and poop are easily vacuumed and/or shaken out one or two times a day depending on your cage size and amount of pigs. The most popular by far it fleece, towels, newspaper. Myself, I found that towels seemed to grab odor faster, so I started putting the quilt batting in between the fleece and towels. Whatever your system, it needs to be something that is easy to maintain with your cage. That is why I was determined to make sure my fleece was attached to the floor of the cage. Doing so allows me to run the special piggie wet dry vacuum over the whole thing and it sucks up hair, hay and poops quickly. With my gigantoid -mega -wide two story cage I just couldn't handle messing with a loose blanket. At one point I was getting lazy and not attaching it to the coroplast floor bottom. The time and energy to maintain it on a daily basis sucked out about 40 minutes every night instead of 5. In addition, my fleece got a horrible build-up of hair inside and washing it in the washer and dryer didn't help much. I had hair getting all over the place. I didn't like having hair all over my apartment. My new cage quilt is pretty exciting. I hope it ends up working as a solid permanent solution. |
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Topaz65z |
Fleece bedding.... | #130 | ||
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Hi everyone. :)
I'm new to this board and am so happy I have found a place with so much helpful guinea pig info. I have a question regarding the fleece bedding. It sounds like something I'd like to try but I have a bit of a dilemma. After my two beloved guinea girls passed away recently(they were both 5 years old and died within a month and a few days of each other), I couldn't help myself and stopped by the pet store two days ago.....and ended up with three more girls. I don't think they were properly cared for and yesterday I discovered they have lice and some sort of mites...ack. I know pet stores aren't the best place to buy guinea pigs but I fell in love. Anyway, I've made a vet appointment for early next week....the soonest I could get in. Do you think the fleece would be a bad idea until they're treated? Would washing in hot water every couple of days get rid of any critters hopping off of them? Or should I just stick to the aspen shavings I've been using? Thanks in advance for any advice. Laura |
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PooksiedAnimals |
Re: Fleece bedding.... | #131 | ||
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Most kind of "critters" can only survive on the host. I'd say aspen or fleece, would be pretty much the same. The important part would be to thoroughly clean the cage when they've been treated, to help prevent re-infestation.
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Topaz65z |
Re: Fleece bedding.... | #132 | ||
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Thanks so much for your prompt response! I've been sitting at my computer reading through all kinds of good stuff on here for HOURS now. I just can't drag myself away. :D
Seeing as it probably won't matter which I use, which I sort of suspected, and simply for the fact that I have a whole bag of aspen shavings, I'll stick with that till it's gone. Then I'm for sure trying the fleece. I'd never even heard of this before. I've got some old blankets that would probably work well. Thanks again for getting back to me. Laura |
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singht |
fleece washing | #133 | ||
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thanks a lot for all that info... i did succeed in getting the water to be absorbed but it isnt like it gets passed through. i boiled the thing in detergent water for wuite a while before i achieved the absorbency. basically it would be good if it allows liquid to pass through without getting the surface wet. so i guess it fails there...
right now i got this dried hay sort of a thing which they use to pack fruits like oranges and stuff here and i have layered newspaper and then topped it with this hay. stuart seems to be liking it coz he borrows in it and plays around it a lot and since the hay layer is thick so the urine passed through to newspaper without getting him wet//cold...but a permanent solution i think has to be fleece. so do u think more washing could be of help there? |
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singht |
C&C cage | #134 | ||
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oh by the way i finally managed to build a C&C cage. actually didnt get the cubes in india so got a grill sort of a thing made. it is 30" by50" so i guess that should be good. and it came to be around 800 rupees which is roughly around 16 US $! the coroplast was free. and we dont get pigloos here so i cut and stuck cardboard to amde a hidey home for him and he loves it! there is a tunnel ( a card board round container for a bottle) which he loves going through. now the only issue that remains unresolved is the mystery of the fleece!
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Austruck |
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Hi! I'm not sure I've ever gotten my fleece to totally "pass through" with the urine -- not like it'll stay totally dry or anything. I mean, I've noticed that using a good crib mattress pad underneath helps because THAT soaks in the urine and holds it quite well. But if that would get too wet, then yes, of course, the fleece itself will be wet too.
I don't mean to add another level to the discussion, but I've found it definitely also matters what you put underneath. I try to use what someone here suggested: a quilted crib mattress pad (almost as big as the fleece). So, on the bottom of the cage I have newspapers, then the crib pad, then the fleece, which I secure with two heavy food dishes in two corners and two bricks in the other two corners. That's been working out great, and it takes me about five minutes to change the whole cage this way. |
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piggypumba |
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I have been using fleece on half of the cage (the "sleeping quarters") and carefresh on the other half. I notice that Pumbaa prefers the fleece, and
I am getting tired of the dust of the loose bedding. I found a couple of fleece blankets on sale for $5 each today, and I'm thinking about using only
fleece. My only concern is the smell. I notice that by the end of each day, when I spot clean poopies, the cage has an overall poop smell. How do you manage
the smell when using only fleece?
Also, any suggestions on litter training? I've had a litter pan for almost a week, but Pumbaa has only used it a couple of times. I notice that he likes to designate one corner as a potty, so I keep moving the pan to that corner. Then he just picks a new corner! It makes the cage messy really quickly! |
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Pigs potty train themselves. Either they get the hang of it, and do it, or they don't, and no amount of training seems to help. It really depends on the
pig.
When I have used fleece, its the urine that smells more strongly than any of the poop. Dealing with a boar, you have the added bonus of boar scent. But I have found my fleece lasts longer if I have newspaper underneath to absorb the urine, and change that every day or so. |
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I have a 3x3 C&C Cage with a L shaped loft. I also use fleece and I love it. It's soo much easier to clean and maintain. I spot clean once a day with a
small hand held vacume and wash the fleece every 7 days. This is what I have underneath my fleece and I doesn't stink.
Three layers of towels, then a mattress cover pad, then the fleece. I also have a box with aspen in it where the hay is. Since they peep and poo while they eat, the box of aspen holds most the of their droppings. Some cavy owners have problems with their cavies going underneath the fleece, but what I did was cut the fleece long enough so that I can binder clip the fleece over the coroplast edges. Works great! Also, wash all of your bedding with unscented detergent and vinegar! |
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ronald305 |
bedding material | #140 | ||
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Hi there cavy slaves
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