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PattiNYC	Spike - Thought it was a UTI, turns out to be stones		Lead	[-]
Posts: 197 08/25/07 09:33 PM	Tags : bladder, stones Hi all - It's 10:30 Saturday night and Spike is uncomfortable. I believe it is a UTI, I ran out of cranberries last week and I think he reacted to it. :( I have Baytril in the fridge that expired in April. While I know it may not be effective, will it hurt him do you think? I will surely take him to the vet on Monday, but I would like to start his healing if possible. If the answer is no way on the ABs, any ideas on how to keep him comfortable until Monday? Last Edited By: PattiNYC 10/02/07 08:30 PM. Edited 1 time.
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PooksiedAnimals		#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4114 08/26/07 10:02 AM Moderator	You can try the Baytril, but Bactrim is a better UTI medication (it collects in the urine, so it focuses on the spot). I usually try to give the "appropriate" antibiotic for the symptom if I'm medicating on my own. If he was treated with Baytril for a UTI before, I'd probably go ahead and use it. I've syringe-fed cranberry juice to a UTI pig before with mixed results (sometimes it helped, sometimes it did nothing). The best thing, really, is to keep him hydrated. UTIs at least aren't fatal.... just uncomfortable. I know that's not really helpful, but its what I've had to tell myself when it takes a day or two to get to the vet to have it treated. Does your vet have someone on call? My vet has an on call vet that you can consult with over the weekend if the office is closed. Has been very helpful in cases like this.
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AmeliaDaisy		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1601 08/30/07 12:57 AM	Hope Spike is well?
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PattiNYC		#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 197 08/30/07 07:54 PM	Hi all- Thanks for the advice and well wishes. Spike had an up and down week. He has been eating his pellets and drinking, but not too interested in fresh veggies (except carrots and basil, go figure). I took the day off tomorrow and I think I will call the vet. He does not seem to be in pain, but he is just not himself. I will let you know :)
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PattiNYC		#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 197 09/01/07 08:43 PM	Spike got some antibiotics today, he is already on the mend. Thanks for your well wishes
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PooksiedAnimals		#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4114 09/02/07 06:29 AM Moderator	Great news. Hope he continues to feel better.
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PattiNYC		#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 197 10/02/07 08:34 PM	Hi all. After a month of up and down behavior and eating habits, I finally took Spike to an exotics specialist about an hour away. I am sad to report that Spike has stones and my thought that his flora was off delayed his treatment for them. She kept him last night for rehydration and pain management. His kidney bloodwaork was not too good, but that may have been his kidneys shutting down or it may have been dehydration. I will know more tomorrow. I am so sad that I did not take this more seriously from the beginning. I was hand feeding him for too many days, I should have been less consumed with work and really realized what was going on :( :( :( Say a prayer that he will be well enough to come home or that if he needs to move on to the bridge he can do it with less pain.
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KeepNitreal90		#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 331 10/02/07 08:45 PM	Aww...I'm sorry to hear about Spike. I'll say a prayer or two. I hope everything goes well. Hang in thhere.
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PooksiedAnimals		#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4114 10/02/07 09:01 PM Moderator	Guinea pigs hide their illnesses very well. It is often hard to see the symptoms, and often they're clear only after the fact. They're often subtle enough, too, that you second guess yourself a lot, wondering if you're seeing something wrong that isn't really there. It happens. Even to the best of us. They're tricky little critters. I hope for the best. You are in my thoughts.
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PattiNYC		#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 197 10/03/07 08:47 PM	Thanks for the good wishes. I brought Spike home today with antibiotics, prednisone, and "ringers" solution to be administered 2X each day. I am nervous but hopeful and off to guinealynx for the low calcium diet guidelines. I will keep you posted.
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PooksiedAnimals		#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4114 10/04/07 08:09 AM Moderator	I've brought home my share of ringers solution. The first couple of ones are the most scary, and it gets a little easier after that. More good thoughts to you and Spike.
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PattiNYC		#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 197 10/07/07 09:06 PM	hey all- some updates... Between Friday and Saturday, Spike perked up AND passed 7 stones. There wasn't even eny blood. I thought we were golden. Today (Sunday) we went for his update. his blood test was great (BUN and Creatinine sp?) were very much improved and nearly in normal ranges. Unfortunately his appetite was worse today and he refused 1/4 of his required force fed Critical care. Unlike yesterday he also refused most fresh food, not even the small nibbles we got yesterday :( I suppose I have to expect ups and downs but today was a roller coaster. The vet said that now that the bladder stones were probably all or most passed, his kidneys may be clearing out, so this will be more painful. I feel so bad for the little guy. Thanks for listening...
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AmeliaDaisy		#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1601 10/08/07 07:34 AM	Spike is so brave! There is something you can give them for the pain - does anyone know? It may be pain, or the med that is putting him off his food. Overall, I think your results are great! You will probably have to rework his diet now with less calcium foods. I really hope the worst is past. He has always sounded like such a cute pig.
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PooksiedAnimals		#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4114 10/08/07 08:34 AM Moderator	Oof. Ups and downs like that are such a killer. What a little trooper, though. Hopefully he's feeling better soon. Good luck with him.
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PattiNYC		#14	[url]	[-]
Posts: 197 10/08/07 12:59 PM	thanks guys... today is worse, spitting out all food and very lethargic. the prednisone is supposed to help pain and appetite, but it's not. i will keep trying (typing with one hand, sorry for errors)
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AmeliaDaisy		#15	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1601 10/09/07 06:47 PM	Ohh, sorry to hear it. How is he now?
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PattiNYC		#16	[url]	[-]
Posts: 197 10/13/07 05:51 PM	Hi- What a sad, long week. I am sorry to report that after about 5 weeks of illness with only 1 or 2 days of hope in between, Spike has passed to the bridge. My little Godzilla-footed loverboy was just not able to bounce back after his bout with stones. I am so heartbroken, but I know he is on a better place with a renewed, voracious appetite and sweet hay meadows to run free in. Thanks all for your love and support, for the last 4 years you have been a source of knowledge and comeraderie for me and Spike. I will continue to lurk, and may feel the need to be a piggie mom again, but right now I just need to cry a little and remember my sweet, sweet boy. Patti
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PooksiedAnimals		#17	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4114 10/13/07 06:15 PM Moderator	I am very sorry you lost him. He was a cutie (reminds me of my old Eclair). An illness like that can drain a lot out of you. My condolences, and take care of yourself.
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AmeliaDaisy		#18	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1601 10/14/07 07:30 AM	Very sad news. He died loved. Please hang around. One day you may want to honour Spike's memory by giving a chance at a better life to a shelter piggie. I am sure Spike is playing with my Minty!
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